Interview with Roy Wilhelm, December 24, 1992
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'''Roy''': That's right. But the rest of them, they didn't get it that he swam the Rhine and was a deserter. He worked his way over on a freighter. Maybe if he was on the docks when the German army, I don't suppose he'd wear a sign around on his back saying, "I'm the old boy that deserted the army and swam the Rhine river with a razor and a knapsack full of bread and I've got me a job now and I'm goin' to the States." | '''Roy''': That's right. But the rest of them, they didn't get it that he swam the Rhine and was a deserter. He worked his way over on a freighter. Maybe if he was on the docks when the German army, I don't suppose he'd wear a sign around on his back saying, "I'm the old boy that deserted the army and swam the Rhine river with a razor and a knapsack full of bread and I've got me a job now and I'm goin' to the States." | ||
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'''John''': Now is there a generation between [[John Andrew Williams (Johann Andreas Wilhelm)|John A. Wilhelm]] and [[Bateman Haight Wilhelm|B.H.]]? | '''John''': Now is there a generation between [[John Andrew Williams (Johann Andreas Wilhelm)|John A. Wilhelm]] and [[Bateman Haight Wilhelm|B.H.]]? | ||
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'''John''': I was going to say, we have [[Autobiography of Clarissa Wilhelm|an account]] of hers don't we, for a lot of that history? | '''John''': I was going to say, we have [[Autobiography of Clarissa Wilhelm|an account]] of hers don't we, for a lot of that history? | ||
- | '''Roy''': Well that's the guy; she buried him there, plus three kids and just had the two boys left. ''(Ed. Note: According to genealogy records, James Return, Susan Clarissa, Bateman Haight and Ellen Albinia were alive when they left Missouri; also, [[Autobiography of Clarissa Wilhelm|Clarissa' Autobiography]] confirms only two children died in Missouri)'' And then this Holliday, this wagon master, was lookin' for a good cook. And she was a good cook and so she signed on to cook for him and his out riders for passage for her and the two boys. | + | '''Roy''': Well that's the guy; she buried him there, plus three kids and just had the two boys left. ''(Ed. Note: According to genealogy records, James Return, Susan Clarissa, Bateman Haight and Ellen Albinia were alive when they left Missouri; also, [[Autobiography of Clarissa Wilhelm|Clarissa's Autobiography]] confirms only two children died in Missouri)'' And then this Holliday, this wagon master, was lookin' for a good cook. And she was a good cook and so she signed on to cook for him and his out riders for passage for her and the two boys. |
'''John''': And who were the two boys? | '''John''': And who were the two boys? |